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on the lack of future for cmucl in Debian
Nov. 24th, 2009 06:45 amFollowing the announcement of the source+throw away binaries route for uploading packages I've had a brief discussion with our FTP team.
The implications of the new method would be that if you upload a package it will automatically be recompiled from source by using the packages already in the system.
For cmucl which needs cmucl to recompile itself it means that we can only use the previous version of cmucl in the archive, not the one we are just uploading. This won't work as the compiling cmucl needs to be hand-patched to be more 'like' the new version, otherwise you cannot rebuild it.
The conclusion of this discussion is that systems like cmucl are no longer possible under this new system.
The FTP team suggested to change cmucl to be able to do this. Needless to say we already have this, after several years of hard effort by multiple people, it's just called sbcl.
So in the end the 'everybody uses C' camp won and cmucl on Debian will die a quiet death. It's a sad end for a system hand-patched from PDP10's to modern CPU's over the coarse of almost 30 years...
The implications of the new method would be that if you upload a package it will automatically be recompiled from source by using the packages already in the system.
For cmucl which needs cmucl to recompile itself it means that we can only use the previous version of cmucl in the archive, not the one we are just uploading. This won't work as the compiling cmucl needs to be hand-patched to be more 'like' the new version, otherwise you cannot rebuild it.
The conclusion of this discussion is that systems like cmucl are no longer possible under this new system.
The FTP team suggested to change cmucl to be able to do this. Needless to say we already have this, after several years of hard effort by multiple people, it's just called sbcl.
So in the end the 'everybody uses C' camp won and cmucl on Debian will die a quiet death. It's a sad end for a system hand-patched from PDP10's to modern CPU's over the coarse of almost 30 years...
