Debian insanity

[pvaneynd]

I could not stay silent anymore and commented on the DFSG v2 issues. I feel Debian is getting run over by fanatics. Where is the Debian rejected the close association with the FSF so that contrib and non-free could exist for the benefit of our users? Why is the license of the bloody firmware of any importance? Don't these people understand that a lot of what they consider hardware has been software for a long time? Will they demand that intel GPL's the microcode of the pentium IV soon? At least Marco D'Itri seems to have the correct idea. I know I should be out there, arguing without end in debian-legal and stuff, but I just do not have the time or energy to waste on their illusions.
Am I turing into Erik Naggum?

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[zonereyrie.livejournal.com]

I pretty much stopped paying attention to Debian ages ago because of similar issues, and it seems like things are getting worse. I know I'm an evil, RMS hating bastard for not drinking the Free Kool-Aid, but I felt Debian was making things more difficult than they needed to be because of the extreme push to be Free. And there always seemed to be some people who were deluded enough to think that Debian somehow had the leverage to force the world to do it their way or be driven out of business. From those comments it looks like those folks have managed to grab power, which is unfortunate.

[pvaneynd]

The funny thing is that RMS himself is "not free enough". The gnu documentation license is considered "non free", so all GNU documentation goes in non-free. Extending software ideas to documentation was already stupid, but extending them to hardware is beyond insane.
I fear we will see a split soon... Usable-Debian anyone?

[zonereyrie.livejournal.com]

The funny thing is that RMS himself is "not free enough".

I think that sums up how fscking stupid the situation must be. RMS is so extreme a lot of people already can't really take him seriously, at least as more than an idealist. If RMS isn't 'free enough', that's pretty scary really - and I think it shows a distinct detachment from the real world. Kool-Aid-Debian?

I think what is more likely is that the developers frustrated by the trend will just defect to something like Fedora, or Slackware, or some other distro which isn't quite so cultish.